Refuse Records drops Noose, remainder of Euro tour cancelled
A couple of days ago it was announced that the remaining dates of the European Tour of Noose were cancelled. According to a post by ‘Bucky’ on the React! Records messageboard some stuff happened:
I am not going to litter the internet with personal drama. I will just say this:
Noose is not necessarily “broken up”.
We do not have a drummer right now, however, and that is why we are unable to finish the tour.
A number of unfortunate events took place that led us to this point. I am partly to blame but not wholly to blame. Whatever anyone says just keep this in mind: no on involved did anything truly awful. Conflicts of personality and a great deal of miscommunication created a toxic situation and that’s all you need to know. If anyone tells you anything different they’re misinformed.
I am, from the bottom of my heart, genuinely sorry about having to cancel on people. Anyone setting up any of the shows who ends up losing money because the tour was cancelled should contact me and we can talk about setting things right.
Today Refuse Records who recently released Noose’s Depraved Indifference 7″ and organized their European Tour announced Noose got kicked from the label:
NOOSE is officially kicked out from Refuse Records (as a first band ever related with my label ). There will be no second pressing of the EP. I feel sorry for everyone who felt excluded and offended by pseudo-militant and intolerant statements of the singer of Noose on stage and his behaviors on the road. I promise to be more careful with the touring bands and bands signed on Refuse Records. I’ll… keep my standards higher than ever from now.
And here is an update from Robert of Refuse Records:
I found there is a lots of rumors and gossips going on around what happened during Noose tour. I want to make clear that the tour was definitely over when the drummer of Noose, Joey, left the stage before finishing their set in Toulouse after he felt uncomfortable after some comments coming out from the singer on stage.
Anyway, it was also a result of many other things that happened on the road. Lots of people who saw their shows or experienced Bucky’s actions had similar critical opinions. There was no way we could continue the tour after aggressive and sometimes violent behaviour of the singer towards other members of the band and also, after his arrogant and childish behaviours towards our driver Grzesiek and me but especially after his irresponsible and dangerous behaviours in the van when we were on full speed on highway, 9km from Toulouse. He was punching heavily his head against the window in the van. It results with the direct reaction from a driver who slapped Bucky in the face. Bucky’s actions in the van would kill us all on the highway.
He actually put us twice in a life-threatening situation on the same day – once on the highway and second, when our van broke as a direct result of his behaviour, when we had parked the van on the street, where, we found soon, was the main nazi-headquarter in Toulouse. When we were left by the band with the van, me and the driver were chased by local neo-nazis (two of them served in special forces of the French army). We were told that nazis had weapons in their HQ so we can consider ourselves pretty lucky.
During the show in Toulouse, singer was speaking insults towards the driver who was not there (not really brave and direct, he was too scared to confront us directly). He said things like „I was slapped by the driver who is a jock and he doesn’t even speaks MY language” and also „Fuck the driver” etc. He’s lucky that we were not at this show as it would end up with our immediate reaction. I need to mention that driver on this tour was a good friend of mine, Grzesiek. He’s a person involved since many years in local Hc/Punk and Straight Edge scene in Warsaw but especially active in antifascist and anarchist movements since many years. He was also a driver for Right Idea on their european tour. He doesn’t speak English and it seems it was serious problem for Bucky as he expressed this feelings in his xenophobic rhetoric on stage.
All this insults expressed by the singer happened more or less the same time when we got in troubles with nazis, trying to protect the van, equipment and also personal things of the band members. After the show it seemed some of the members tried to run away without paying their debts for the van, backline and driver. Luckily, we were there to make sure to get our money back. At the end they left their drummer, Joey, who’s still staying with us. He’s left with all the debts and responsibilities.
Joey was the only reliable and responsible person from the band, who paid most of the debts so far, mostly from his own packet. Joey was also responsible and involved in booking the tour, putting out the record, printing t-shirts and he did a lot of work to make this tour possible.
Joey will start selling t-shirts and records leftovers from the tour so please support him. Other members are travelling Europe at the moment (Barcelona, Oslo) and it seems they’re not broke and at the same time they still owe money to the driver and to Joey, and as I want to mention again, who is paying their debts from his own packet. At the moment we’re still waiting for the van reparations and it’s gonna costs us 800 Euros.
I feel like Bucky should pay for this. I don’t think he deserved for any support whenever he is in Europe at the moment. We’re in a good hands now here in Toulouse, so I want to thank again to Nab, Claire and Pablo for everything they’re doing for us. Robertxxx, Toulouse, 12.06.2012
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Updated and apparantly ‘our’ Nab is involved.
One of the members of Noose has reacted on the whole situation. Go and follow it here:
Strange, I can still read it.
It works again for me. Facebook has been acting weird the last few days.