Dutch hardcore scene visualized – version 2
Last month we posted the first version of our “Dutch hardcore scene visualized” article, the response (additions, corrections, likes etc.) was awesome. We quickly replied that we would update it within a week (or two), and of course that turned out to take a bit longer… But here it is, the new and improved version.
Yordi had the following to say about this update:
“First of all: great to see all the responses on the investigation and visualization I did last month, but just as I expected; some bands were missing or not labeled the right way. So to everyone who contributed and reported missing bands or incorrect information; thanks a lot! This proves some – yep, I’m just going to throw in some buzzwords in here – cool hc-community-crowdsourcing.
Anyway, the main goal of this project was to present the current hardcore scene in the Netherlands as complete as possible. With over thirty updates in the map/database I guess I’m closer to achieving this goal. I clearly missed a lot of bands in Friesland in the first version, which proves to be an area with an growing community with lots of new bands and releases. The same with a couple of bands from Zeeland and some acts who just started but are definitely worth mentioning. Anyway, check the full list out below and enjoy clicking on the map!”
The following bands were added:
NOORD-BRABANT
Wasted Bullet / Tilburg
Backbreaker / Kaatsheuvel
Call It Off / Eindhoven
uMad / Breda
Pigteeth / Breda
Lockdown / Breda
Bare Hands / Breda
ZEELAND
Rites / Middelburg
Bad Ragaz / Middelburg
LIMBURG
Better Off / Stein
FRIESLAND
Swim Or Drown / Heerenveen
When Walls Collapse / Heerenveen
Cold Blooded / Heerenveen
Pinheadz / Ameland
13 Steps / Drachten
Stonehawk / Sneek
Bad Attitude / Leeuwarden
Pantah / Leeuwarden
0Fight8 / Leeuwarden
NOORD-HOLLAND
Local Spastics / Amsterdam
My City Burning / Amsterdam
ZUID-HOLLAND
As Prayers Fail / Rotterdam
From The Heart / Rotterdam
Zachte G Harde P / Rotterdam
GELDERLAND
Through The Struggle / Nijmegen
Making it a total of 113 bands right now.
About the viz
This is version 2, an update of version 1. The geolocation of a certain band is based on their ‘hometown’ as specified in their bio. The size of the bubble – to indicate the ‘importance’ of a certain band – depends on a little math thingy I did: it’s the sum of the years of existence, the amount of released demos/7”/ep’s/full lenghts plus eventually an qualitative correction. Note that I don’t have a degree in ‘hardcoremathics’ or something, so if a bubble isn’t big enough, well, fine. I probably forgot some bands, if you think a band who’s not in this viz should be included, let me know!
Sources: SWNK, 3voor12, MusicFrom, Friesland Pop, Punx.nl, invididual band sites.
Fullscreen: Fullscreen version of the map.
Download data: The ‘clean sheet’ in PDF-format, since I got some requests from bookers for a summarized view of the data.
Visualization made by Yordi Dam.
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Great update! I still can think of bands that are missing and that’s a positive thing! The Dutch scene is much bigger than people give it credit for.
Feel free to let us know which bands are missing 😉
Lawine – Nijmegen
Sparky’s Revenge punkrock from Harlingen Friesland Holland!
Sparky’s Revenge is already on the list… Please check before you post 😉
Fucking Virgins
Zaanstad
89 tot heden
Off the top of my head… 😉
Breda: Second East https://www.facebook.com/SecondEast
March https://www.facebook.com/marchpunkrock
Team Wasted https://www.facebook.com/TeamXWasted
Tilburg: State My Case https://www.facebook.com/statemycase
Roosendaal: Clear The Skies https://www.facebook.com/ClearTheSkiesMetalcore
Eindhoven: Immobilize https://www.facebook.com/ImmobilizeNL/info
Dawn of Mankind https://www.facebook.com/dawnofmankind
Rebuilding Memories https://www.facebook.com/RebuildingMemories
Discipline http://www.discipline.nl/
Rotterdam: Second Chance NL is doing shows again https://www.facebook.com/SecondChanceNl
Angry Old Wankers: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Angry-Old-Wankers/113490282044731
Deventer/Hengelo: Grown Cold
Twente: Troops of Doom
Grown Cold stond er al, ooh noh 🙂
Why are the dots different in size. Based on what?
Read Goran. Read.
The size of the bubbles indicates how ‘big’ the band is. It’s not a quantitive thing to measure really, but this is how I ‘calculated’ it:
“About the viz
The geolocation of a certain band is based on their ‘hometown’ as specified in their bio. The size of the bubble – to indicate the ‘importance’ of a certain band – depends on a little math thingy I did: it’s the sum of the years of existence, the amount of released demos/7”/ep’s/full lenghts plus eventually an qualitative correction. Note that I don’t have a degree in ‘hardcoremathics’ or something, so if a bubble isn’t big enough, well, fine.”
Sorry I have not read the previous post. But I would not actually have to do this because this infographic would have to speak for itselves
you can show how many albums a band has released and how long they exist. in a bubble In many different ways. Now it is determined on intuition.
If you made a math calculation of it, it should be displayed in the infographic.To give an explanation.
I like the idea to visualize the hardcore scene. But it could be so much better
Oh no doubt it could be better. It can always be better. It could be worse too though 🙂 And you’ll have to take the limitations of the scripting software used and the time available to the people doing this in account too.
Suggestions on how / what to improve are appreciated though! You know where to find me 😉 or maybe get in touch with Yordi directly to see what’s possible.
Since I am a infographic designer for some newspapers as well – where correctness of the data is even more important ofc – I know the importance of explaining maps and legends. But there’s a reason why I chose to not include the sum I made in a legend: it’s no ‘cold hard data’, but a indicator to show where relative young and new bands are located + some older, more established or ‘more popular’ bands are from. For instance; the number behind Cornered is ’11’. I could have put that in the legend, but it simply doesn’t say anything. What is ’11’? It doesn’t add anything to story. The number behind the bubbles is something to create a visual perception of where the ‘bands w/ bigger impact’ bands are located. Just to show trends based on region en to show clusters in a certain region. Not to show absolute numbers.
I could have made the decision to use the same size for every band, but I didn’t want to do that because that would exclude this – in my opinion – interesting layer of data.
And ofc, there are more advanced way of doing this, and there’s always a ‘Tufte rule’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte) to relate to but this was my shot at using a visualisation to show patterns, clusters and the results of a ‘snapshot of the current hc’ scene 🙂
Run Like Hell / Zeeland
Goes
They’re actually on the list.
Saw it! Sorry hehe
Galbak & Gnadab from Alphen a/d Rijn
Sjiek! here are some bands that didnt make it to the list so far, but definitly worth adding:
– Amsterdam: The Shining, Nuclear Devestation, Tense Reaction, Buiten Gebruik
– Haarlem: De Aanslag
– Tilburg: Milkman
– Sevenum: Radio Bikini
Milkman is already in there.
Hey guys, From the Heart (Rotterdam) was added but I cannot find it on the map?
Is it the bubble in the bubble of AS PRAYERS FAIL?
This is an interesting one haha… Yordi?
FTH is definately added but the geocoder I used isn’t that accurate sometimes so that could be possible. Tomorrow i’ll fix the bugs + additions as stated above 🙂 Lets make this map (+database/file) the most accurate document of what’s going on in ‘HCNL’ right now! 🙂 Thanks For all the comments guys!
A quick fix. Added bands:
UTRECHT
Mary Fields / Utrecht
BRABANT
State My Case / Tilburg
Rebuilding Memories / Someren
March / Breda
Team Wasted / Breda
ZUID HOLLAND
Angry Old Wankers / Roffa
NOORD HOLLAND
Buiten Gebruik / Amsterdam
Tense Reaction / Amsterdam
Nuclear Devastation / Amsterdam
The Shining / Amsterdam
De Aanslag / Haarlem
GELDERLAND
Lawine / Nijmegen
LIMBURG
Radio Bikini / Sevenum
Which makes it a total of 126 bands (for now)
This is really cool! But Tense Reaction is actually from Utrecht 😉
And:
ZUID HOLLAND
0181 Beatdown / Spijkenisse
NOORD HOLLAND
Weekend Love / Haarlem
Stabbing Device / Haarlem
We Are The Doctors / Haarlem
GELDERLAND
The Assange / Nijmegen
The Minority / Nijmegen
Which makes it a total of 133 bands atm!
Appendix / Bergen op Zoom / Brabant
Didn’t know they still existed, but they’re on the map right now!
Defy The Crown/Waalwijk Noord Brabant
Witness The Fall/waalwijk Noord Brabant
Discreator/kaatsheuvel Noord Brabant
Both Daffy The Clown and Fitness The Wall are already on there Marck. 😉
Tech9 quit
What would be awesome is too add the dimension of time to it.
so you can see what the map was like in 2004/1994/1984/1977.